Oil burning engine with marvel mystery oil priuschat. Burt pierce also designed the stillpopular marvel mystery oil through marvel oil co. In addition to cleaning, marvel mystery oil also increases gas mileage, decreases engine. Is there a particular kind of marvel mystery oil that does this, or, is it just any of the red can versions i pick off the shelf at my local parts house. These products work as well as or frequently better than the commercial products, and the product of the month and cost less. Marvel mystery oil offers long lasting protection to your cars hardworking engine by cleaning and adding a lubricating layer unparalleled by the other fuel and. Stabil i do use if i am using gas from a can to fill anything, like small engines, and my plow truck.
Marvel mystery oil intake cleaning smoke show general. Marvel mystery oil has several uses in the automotive field. Marvel mystery oil is nothing but a solvent and has no place in motor oils these days. And we had only screens on the air intake and for the oil. I dont think that a product made entirely of specially blended petroleum oil would be specifically classified as a solvent even though naptha 2535% is listed on the msds. Marvel mystery oil is a blend of petroleum and chemicals used to clean and maintain the fuel jets. Marvel mystery oil isnt flammable and the seafoam is ver. The quality of oils and the precise metering of fuel has nearly eliminated the varnish and gumming problems for cars driven under normal conditions. Service instructions for marvelschebler and zenith carburetors. Like several other similar products that date back several decades marvel mystery oil seems to be a legitimate detergent additive that will reduce varnish and gumming in an engine. Ive read some positive comments on this marvel mystery oil stuff. Trying to cheaply extract every drop of horsepower i can out of my 94 geo metro.
The main thing i use it for is to pour down the throat of the carb while the engine is running to treat sticky valves due to an engine sitting too much and not being driven. I test the legendary marvel mystery oil and compare it to seafoam results from previous videos. All the wear numbers looked good for all the runs, with slightly better iron 7 instead of 9 and copper 4 instead of 5 numbers for the ones with the marvel mystery oil. It proves to be a highly effective product, that has multiple advantages for the engine. Buy marvel mystery oil 50665 ultimate fuel and motor treatment12 fl oz, 12. Regular cleaning will also extend the life of your carburetor.
Marvel mystery oil in last 3 oil changes i have written about this before but i now have a good bit of experience about using a quart of mmo in each oil change. After 2 oci with mmo added to the oil, it has not improved the oil burning. Jul 24, 2011 so i picked up a quart of synthetic 10w30 motor oil and a bottle of marvel mystery oil. Jesse morris jmor and gary berkey gb in mt gb in mt and i assembled a series of pictures and drawings to show all passages of the ms carb, and how to get to them for the purpose of assisting those who clean a carb. For outboard engines that are fussy i add some star tron and then some sea foam. I was thinking about adding a quart at my next oil change, which should be fairly soon and was looking for a bit of feed back.
Marvel mystery oil might work to loosen the deposits. How to add marvel mystery oil to transmissions it still runs. Marvel mystery oil first came out in october 1923 to rid carburetors of deposits caused by unrefined gasoline. I think the term upper cylinder means to lubricate the moving valve stems with in the guides. Jul 07, 2006 will marvel mystery oil keep ethanol from gumming up the carburator on yamaha motorcycle. My wag is that it cleans up the valve stems enough so there is less drag on the valve train. For individual hand cleaning, aerosol spray cleaners should be fine. Do you put it in with every gas fill up or just at the end of the season.
Both the marvel and the schebler designs were successful and used on a variety of engine types. Motor oils free delivery possible on eligible purchases. Marvel mystery oil 50665 ultimate fuel and motor treatment12. After sitting for a week, bike would start but not keep running. Its a good way to clean out a dirty engine gradually. Adding a solvent to those engines helps clean them up.
Discussion in the hokey ass message board started by. Marvel mystery oil is expensive when bought by the quart, but very affordable when bought by the gallon. If one of my cars has carbs it gets marvel in the fuel and the oil. I would attempt to get the old fuel out of the tank and add some fresh fuel. I use mmo in the oil, start with a small amount just before an oil change 500 miles because it is a strong solvent and will dissolve a lot of crud. A roto tiller engine is nothing but a small 4 stroke outboard engine. Honda cleaner spray black can works very well, use less expensive windex for chrome.
Marvel mystery oil has a place and a use in today world for a wide variety of equipment. Now using something like marvel mystery oil or seafoam wont do any harm to your motor and when used during your riding season or when your bike will be running through fuel regularly, it can help keep things clean, but again, they are really only maintenance and preventative fuel additives. Marvel mystery oil ford 9n, 2n, 8n forum yesterdays. Added to gas it cleans and lubricates fuel injectors and carburetors, improves gasoline mileage, extends spark plug life, reduces and prevents varnish and gum buildup.
Mineral spirits makes up most of the rest of the formulation. Marvel oil company, boasting an enviable reputation among vehicle owners worldwide, is truly a legend of its own. If this is the case, then why is doesnt the naphthenic hydrocarbons 7080% in mmo make it a solvent as well. Marvel mystery oil got its name when its founder burt pierce answered as its a mystery when enquired about its formula. Any of those old guys ever give your innards a hot bath. Techron is 5%10% naptha, 35% stoddard solvent, and 50% mineral spirits.
Older carb d engines in my experience seem to run better and more consistant with mmo. Im not saying its a perfect swap out, atf has been proven not to withstand long term use mixed in with motor oil, whereas marvel will, nor would i run a transmission completely with mmo, but for many practical applications they are interchangeable with marginal at best differences. I had big problems with sticking floats till i started adding marvel to the fuel. Seafoam may avoid a carb cleaning not likely but worth the try first. Will seafoam and marvel mystery oil fix my dead dod lifter in my 2009 saab 97x 5. My glow engines were treated with marvel mystery oil when they were put in storage years ago. I poured about 3 ounces of mystery oil into the toro, topped it off with 17 ounces of the synthetic 10w30, checked the oil level, and all was good.
Using marvel mystery oil to remove aluminum oxide and clean up. Ive seen marvel mystery oil free up sticking rings and lifters, but none of this stuff is going to fix a real problem. Will marvel mystery oil or seafoam fix my carb issues. Spray carb cleaner, but make sure it states that it is throttle body safe as there is a coating inside. Ive heard about putting atf in your carburetor or gas tank to clean the motor out. I wouldnt imagine the one dose of fsc would harm the gaskets in the carb while its cleaning. Marvel mystery oil or seafoam which one is better youtube. I remove the iac valve and egr and clean them separately. Some of you have disagreed with this model t ford forum. You spray it in the intake and watch the carbon run right off. Said i had two options try marvel mystery oil 12 quart in oil 12 quart in the tank, or have the head rebuilt, i poured it in the crankcase and in the tank, fired it up, motor was clicking away as the valve was sticking, in 3045 seconds the noise started to reduce, in another minute or so, no noise. Jun 05, 2015 marvel mystery oil is nothing but a solvent and has no place in motor oils these days.
I was using 3 quarts 5w30 oil and added 12 quart of mmo. Safe fuel additive for carburetor bob is the oil guy. Another good cleaning product is good ole fashioned marvel mystery oil. How to thoroughly clean marvel schebler carburetor passages by. Marvel mystery oil marketing literature claims benefits which include improved lubricating qualities, primarily cleaning and friction reduction capabilities. Another one from the debate is if marvel mystery oil good or bad.
So i poured some down the carb and let it sit overnight. I used marvel mystery oil to help get rid of rust and tarnish on old chrome. So i recently learned about marvel mystery oil out in the wide world of web. Is the carb for a 1600 same as the 1700 how i can check the exact rpm my bike does not have a tachometer. Though after going though everything, my ac vent tube was clear, with ac on no water drips inside, and with the garden hose, no leaks. I was always taught to use marvel mystery oil in the crankcase and in the fuel to keep everything nice and sparkly clean inside, free of gumup. This is a discussion on marvel mystery oil within the maintenance forums, part of the firearm forum category. My awareness of marvel mystery oil being used to solve problems like dealing with valve lifter noise and being used to generally clean engine internals spans more than 40. Marvel mystery oil was founded in 1923 by burt pierce in chicago illinois. Technical seafoam or marvel mystery oil horror stories. I have read in this newsgroup over a period of time that marvel myster oil can clean fuel injectors if added to my gas tank.
You should clean your carburetor every six months to will prevent engine build up and enhance fuel economy and engine efficiency. The product is known for its value for money while providing the same level of protection to the engine. Between the two choices, marvel mystery oil is the best. Rust removal and restoration with marvel mystery oil. Has anyone used seafoam or marvel mystery oil in a 454. Pierce, general motors bought the patent for the marvel carburetor and hired him for a role within gm. After world war i, the marvel carburetor company marvel schebler carburetors since 1928 produced. Sludge and other debris can clog the carburetor of a 2stroke motor, so maintenance is a top priority. It is used as a fuel additive, oil additive, corrosion inhibitor, penetrating oil, and transmission leak stopper and seal relubricator it is composed primarily of petroleum distillates, including mineral oil 60100%, mineral spirits 1030%, tricresyl phosphate an antiwear and extreme pressure additive in. I have been using marvel mystery oil on my guns and other household items for about 5 years now. Use berryman b12 to ensure passage is clear, follow up with 90psi compressed air. I ran a very large fleet and used it all the time bill turned me on to marvel mystery oil way back in the 60s.
In world war ii, marvel mystery oil was actually used in ships, tanks, airplanes and other military vehicles. Clean it with some carburetor cleaner or kerosene and wipe it clean. Ok, updating my test with my 2006 127k mile engine burning oil. The label proclaimed, combats internal motor rust and corrosion, lubricates valves, piston rings, upper cylinder walls, and eliminates valve sticking. Run a tank full of gas through the engine treated with seafoam at twice the recommended concentration before tearing into the carb. Marvel mystery oil is 69 % mineral oil johnsons baby oil is mineral oil, 29 % stoddard solvent mineral spirits, aka, paint thinner the remaining 1% are 3 long named chemicals that are in dry cleaning fluid. Apr 05, 2011 could also be if your ac vent tube is clogged, i think the ac water can drip into the blower. Seafoamcant believe what it did to my engine episode 5cylinder cleaning test using water. I can think that this light oil will help the rings remain free, and lessen carbon build up. Marvel mystery oil is a product of the marvel oil company, founded by burt pierce. Similarly, as the seafoam, it is a petroleumbased product, too, along with the blend of chemicals too. After cleaning carburetor, adding some marvel mystery oil. You can add some marvel mystery oil to the gas as well.
The product has previously been marketed as a fuel additive in all kinds of engines, including aircraft although the company no longer markets it for the latter application on their website. Jesse morris jmor and gary berkey gb in mt gb in mt and i assembled a series of pictures and drawings to show all passages of the ms carb, and how to get to them for the purpose of assisting those who clean a carb, but still have problems. Does anyone have any experience using seafoam or marvel mystery oil in there gas, oil or poured directly into the throat of there carburator. Marvel mystery is very good and the rest is all snake oil. Bill jenkins was a true engine builder he race an engine a few times and tore it down. My favorite is berryman b12 chemtool which seems to have the most cleaning power and also has very good spray pressure. Jun 06, 2015 marvel mystery oil is nothing but a solvent and has no place in motor oils these days. The stuff is basically mineral oil and paint thinner with a tiny amount of dry cleaning fluid. Will marvel mystery oil keep ethanol from gumming up the. However, there was enough castor oil residue present to gum them up solidly. Service instructions for marvelschebler and zenith carburetors ntc use. The product has stood the test of time and continues. Jun 12, 20 shes a lot quieter now and stronger sounding. Hudson, although the marvel carb manual lists at least 15 different makes.
Marvel mystery oil i use too, but ive never resorted to adding it to an engine or fuel system. Marvel mystery oil was introduced in 1923 and came in orange and black quartsized cans. Cleaned it out and had low oil pressure again, but it was better than zero. Many vehicles at that time had ongoing problems with clogged carburetor jets due to poor refining processes. Marvel mystery oil became well known for cleaning these jets and increasing engine performance.
I use marvel oil and lucas fuel treatment to keep the injectors clean and take care of the lubrication issues associated with ethanol fuels. Best way to free up old gummed up engines rc groups. The marvel also acts as a fuel stabilizer, so you dont have to use stabil or something similar. Thought this might help people save some polishing and speed restorations.
Spray the carburetor with specially made cleaner that will remove rust, sludge, and debris. How to use marvel mystery oil as a motor flush it still runs. In the early days of general motors, the two merged and became known as marvel schebler carburetor co. If you notice your engine takes a while to start up or it runs poorly, take a look at the carburetor to see if it needs maintenance. How to thoroughly clean marvelschebler carburetor passages. Seems the modern fuel is too dry to keep a carb working properly. They are not for rust prevention but will help remove rust also both are great for running cleaning patches thru your barrel, so is eds red mix fwiw.
The active ingredients in it are naptha and stoddard solvent. Recommendations for a fuel additive for old gasgummed up. Cbcl77 techtips lessons learned based upon my experiences in completely restoring and reassembly of a 1966 cb77 and the timely advise of credible vintage restorers, i offer the. During every fill out i use some marvel mystery oil mmo and that does help to keep the carburetor clean, keep the piston rings from gumming up, and oiling the top end of the engine for longer life. I put 5 oz in every can along with 5 oz of marvel mystery oil and fill the 5 gallon. Can marvel mystery oil be applied directly into the throat of the carb. Dealer says because of california emmissions and ethanol, this will continue to be a problem for me. Oil burning seems to be about 1 quart 1500 miles or so. Here by popular request is some information on alternative products and information on making up your own cleaning, lubricating, and related items for shooting and reloading. Just wanted to let everyone know i tried using marvel mystery oil in my oil for 3000 miles and it successfully removed carbon deposits that were caked onto my spark plug tips. Marvel mystery lubricating oil is safe for catalytic converters and oxygen sensors. Oct 10, 2007 if you do a top engine clean your gonna need a oil change soon. Marvel mystery oil is one of the products of the marvel oil company. Then some marvel mystery oil in the gas after the engine is running again.
To clean a carburetor, start by removing the part from the machine. How to thoroughly clean marvelschebler carburetor passages by. I have read where mmo is a good, slow engine cleaner when added to the oil change. Apr 06, 2016 make sure you use a high quality carburetor cleaner. Refer to your owners manual if you not sure where the drain plug is. It is a cas 64742525 hydrocracked crude base oil by 80% volume. Now using something like marvel mystery oil or seafoam wont do any harm to your motor and when used during your riding season or when your bike will be running through fuel regularly, it can help keep things clean, but again, they are really only maintenance and preventative fuel. I actually was using the mmo to try and clean the engine in an attempt to reduce the oil burning on my 2006. The truth about marvel mystery oil for your car youtube. Marvel mystery oil in last 3 oil changes toyota 4runner. You want to get out all the scummy stuff like you can see in the photo above. The marvel mystery oil company, originally located in port chester, ny about 40 miles ne of gasoline alley was purchased by turtle wax and moved to chicago in 1999.
What do you guys use to clean the carb dr thumpertalk. To bring up the dreaded mmo word marvel mystery oil. But, regularly i use marvel mystery oil mmo with each tank. The competing sea foam motor treament would have also worked, but marvels product is a bit cheaper. I use seafoam as directed about every other fill up. I believe before this mmo test, the car was burning around 1 quart every 2000 miles or so.
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